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Exploring Cross-Cultural Themes in Fiction

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Title	Exploring Cross-Cultural Themes in Fiction
Performer(s)	Gladman, Renee; Hawkins, Bobbie Louise (chair); Hunt, Laird; Rider, Bhanu Kapil.
Subject 1	Writing.
Subject 2	Fiction.
Abstract	A panel with Bobbie Louise Hawkins, Bhanu Kapil Rider, Renee Gladman, Laird Hunt, and members of the audience in a wide ranging discussion of writing fiction across cultures, personally and within narratives; how that fiction can be received; objectivity; and our currently multimedia-ed, overpopulated world.
Content	0:05 - Audio slate 0:30 - Bobbie Louise Hawkins introduces panel and panelists. 2:35 - Bhanu Kapil Rider begins. Talks about writing The Wolf Girls of Midnapure in Colorado. Quotes a photographer and filmmaker, Michal Rovner, on working with multiple realities. Borders in geography and writing. Multiculturalism and migration as position, translated into narrative line. What happens to characters when the story fails. What happens when the migrant stopped at the border begins to speak. Talks about her mother's cultural schizophrenia and migration from Pakistan to India, and its impact on her own writing. 10:00 -Has begun memoir, thinking about how to write a healing narrative in prose. Her meaning of of postcolonial, rooted in the body, and of healing, related to migrancy. 13:10 - Renee Gladman begins. Will present a more abstract talk on "cross." Prose as place where narrative language and time can come together, and as a gesture, a way of thinking, outside of form, field, or genre... Investigating the reach of prose. Her difficulties with fiction, despite interest in narrative, and in the space around events, which is the realm of fiction and prose. 18:10 - Cross-genre issues in fiction. Agents used in fiction -- W.G. Sebald's The Emigrants and Marguerite Duras' Summer Rain as examples of texts opening and breaking, despite overall flow of fiction. Does the reach differ according to culture? And how does translation fit in? 23:30 - Laird Hunt begins. Will explore in relation to his most recently completed project -- Indiana, Indiana -- and the research he did to write it. Includes his exploration of his recently deceased grandmother's chicken coop that was about to be torn down. The hybridity of his imagined/written rural Indiana with its influences. Diachronicity as well as synchronicity in it. History of destruction and prejudice within that history of place and of family. 29:20 - Bobbie Louise Hawkins talks on "trans" as a carrying agent, importance to her of the place between two places. Her aunt's trances and talking to God included in her "Hardshell Texas Baptist" family of Irish-Cherokee descent. Her escape through language and books that were not the Bible. Tendency then to live in books. Frances Dinsmore as one of the strong women living at the turn of the 20th century, her work in Indian musicology. Brings up the question: Can you usurp the culture of persons who are not yourself? The mistakes inherent in that. 37:15 - Dorothea Lange's late life interview about not creating bias in her photos. Paul Scott's miniseries, The Jewel in the Crown, and John Berger's Pig Earth. Michael Ondaatje. The lack of caricature in these writers' work. The writer as witness. 42:40 - Her own inquiry into her roots. The kaleidoscope we all work through as writers. All writers as 1st generation immigrants from their families. 44:35 - Kapil-Rider comments on Paul Scott's The Jewel in the Crown, how it was offensive to the North Indian British community. Hawkins on the curse of being named in popular culture, how often that first naming you're portrayed as the fool. 46:35 - Tape side change. Kapil Rider on difference between those portrayals done by someone of a culture and those done by someone outside that culture. Discussion of books as opposed to miniseries. 48:20 - Panel opens to audience. Question on whether an objective position can ever really exist. Hawkins responds re: Lange's factory photos. Hunt on the impossibility of "saying it as it is" and our subjectivity. 52:02 - Alex Hidalgo asks Hunt if accounts would be more truthful/accurate if he hadn't moved away from Indiana. He responds on his pre-Indiana influences and the construct of truth, and the distance of a writer. 54:05 - Hawkins refers to Gladman's comment on "received ideas" and its implications for us with recent FCC rulings. Experience of 1st receiving a concept, with students' experience of John Cage as an example. 56:55 - Erik Anderson asks Kapil Rider about photographer she mentioned -- Michal Rovner -- A Space Between is a book on her. Anderson comments on idea that we all are sites of cultural exchange. Hawkins comments. 58:45 - Gladman talks about difficulties of talking about cross-culturalism as an American, because most cultures she's part of don't cross. Her Atlanta black girl thing, her literary "white life" etc. The silence that comes up because overarching American (white) culture lacks interest in ethnicity. 61:55 - Hawkins on the binariness of democracy. Denmark's system of elections. 64:35 - Andrew Wille comments on The Jewel in the Crown, and the implications of reception, aside from writers' intentions. Asks about the importance of historical context. 66:00 - Cheryl Yanek asks about difficulties writing about culture in a very different place. Kapil Rider answers re: history as an emotion. Hunt on needing separation to recreate the topic place. Hunt and Kapil Rider on how presence and absence can change a place. 69:55- Question for Hawkins on how this generation of writers is similar to/different from previous ones re: Hawkin's kaleidoscope/immigrant comment. Hawkins: Different because of overwhelming presence of media/image/travelers, and because of destruction, massive overpopulation. Kapil Rider asks Gladman to comment more on her comment about "being ruined" being a good thing. She does, and on how it affects her work. 77:30 - Jesse Morse asks about Kapil Riders idea about writing backwards from the body, vis a vis Bobbie's "roots are within me." Kapil Rider on how her bodywork has taught her how the body stores things.
Type of Event	panel
Engineer's Notes	good, but lots of hissAbout 3 sec. at beginning and 5 at end.
Date Recorded	2003-06-17
File Format	mp3
Performance Length	1:18:55
Rights Information	Copyright release given to Naropa University for the purposes of preservation, marketing and educational use. All other rights reserved to individual performers.
Department	Writing
Original Format	Audio cassette
Format Description	Sony
Secondary Call Number	CD-03-052
Publisher	Allen Ginsberg Library and Naropa University Archives
Type	Sound
Language	eng
File Name	03P031.mp3

Exploring Cross-Cultural Themes in Fiction

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